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Old 06-08-2009, 08:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Problems With Home-Town School District...

I'm fairly irate right now... _98OLVV:

I just found out that some rather depressing events have been happening in my home-town. Here is a clip from my local, home-town Newspaper. For the record, this high school is not "my" high-school. This is our cross-town rival:


http://www.ledger-dispatch.com/news/...680&topStory=1

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Jason Zysman's grandparents survivied the holocaust. Growing up in Amador County with his Jewish mother, he developed a strong sense of himself, as well as great pride in being an alumnus of Amador High School. Now Zysman says his pride is gone because of the school's handling of anti-Semitic vandalism, verbal harassment and physical assaults that his son, Justin, recently suffered on its campus for two years...

The first incident occurred at the start of Justin's freshman year in 2007, when the words "Burn Jew, burn" were carved into his football locker. Jason and his wife, Molly, claim it took the school an entire year to remove the words from the locker.

Van Velzen (the school's Principal) showed the Ledger Dispatch photos of a number of swastikas and anti-Semitic remarks that had been spray-painted around the Amador campus in the last year...

Molly (Justin's Mother) is equally upset by two incidents in which Justin's P.E. clothes were urinated on in his locker. During the first incident, Justin claims his P.E. coach, Scott Hunkins, handed him a plastic garbage bag and told him to clean the mess up himself.

Justin said that in the two years he was a student at Amador High, a group of 10 boys displayed the Hitler salute to him on campus on a daily basis and repeatedly yelled jokes and remarks about "Jews burning."
To paraphrase Al Pacino, I want to take a flame-thrower to that place! I personally know this family and I have since Justin's parents were teenagers. They were both volunteer firefighters for over a decade and I met them both while serving in a youth service organization in the early 1990s (I was 13 or 14 at the time). They've done more to benefit the community in the last 20 years than most could ever hope to do in a lifetime.

How could a school administrator sit there and do nothing...?

Isn't that grounds for termination in pretty much any country?

At any rate, feel free to post a comment on the newspaper's website if you like. I know his family would love to see your support, if you are so enclined to leave a message.







Also, I have the Principal's phone number, if any of you would like to personally request his resignation. PM me if you want it... :
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It appears that there is a huge groundswell of people calling for the resignation of the principal and even those bigots who turned away when these things happened.
It is a downright shame that in this day and age activities like that still go on and should not by any means tolerated. The shame is that those involved are still working there. I've added a comment to the list.
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Old 06-08-2009, 10:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
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If something similar happened in my town, there'd be a lynching 'bout now. Small town justice style.
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I'm fairly irate right now...
You should be.

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How could a school administrator sit there and do nothing...?
The two most likely reasons are
  1. he has no spine
  2. he's bigoted himself
I hope the fecal matter hits the rotary air circulator in a big way. No one should have to put up with that.


Human nature will never change. The need for scapegoats and 'others' to put down will always, sadly, be with us. But that impulse must be fought. I hope that administrator spends the next few months wondering where he'll ever find another job.
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Not great - but with respect to the head teacher I would also caution against rushing to a fixed opinion based on a newspaper article and other 'opinion'. Teachers are routinely the subject of tribunals for inappropriate behaviour, harassment, assault and so on. It is a tsunami of claim, often in pursuit of cash. As a school governor, I see it routinely, and currently our rector is the subject of a malicious claim for inappropriate behaviour which, when seen in the full light of circumstance and evidence, will be exposed for what it is - a grab for cash. All I am saying is - do not prejudge and keep an open mind. Innocent until proven guilty. He may well have a tougher backbone than you think. Either way, who would be a teacher eh?
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Not great - but with respect to the head teacher I would also caution against rushing to a fixed opinion based on a newspaper article and other 'opinion'. Teachers are routinely the subject of tribunals for inappropriate behaviour, harassment, assault and so on. It is a tsunami of claim, often in pursuit of cash. As a school governor, I see it routinely, and currently our rector is the subject of a malicious claim for inappropriate behaviour which, when seen in the full light of circumstance and evidence, will be exposed for what it is - a grab for cash. All I am saying is - do not prejudge and keep an open mind. Innocent until proven guilty. He may well have a tougher backbone than you think. Either way, who would be a teacher eh?
Ah, sound measured words sophia. I am school board president of our school district and your experience matches mine. An upset parent and a news article can stir up so much white water, often out of proportion. Folks read a news article, assume it is entirely factual, add in their own assumptions and bingo: righteous anger. And isn't anger satisfying?

Not that the principal couldn't have done better, but it wouldn't be the first time that a parent and child exaggerated to get their once of blood.

Funny how there are calls to fire, harass and even lynch the principal, but no one seems to be worried about holding the children who actually conducted the hateful acts accountable.
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Funny how there are calls to fire, harass and even lynch the principal, but no one seems to be worried about holding the children who actually conducted the hateful acts accountable.
It sounds (from hundreds of miles away, based on a few sentences of a third-hand report ) like the basic issue here is that the principal isn't holding those kids accountable, that being his/her job.
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It sounds (from hundreds of miles away, based on a few sentences of a third-hand report ) like the basic issue here is that the principal isn't holding those kids accountable, that being his/her job.

I think that what we are saying - and in my case from several thousand miles away - do not jump to conclusions. It sounds from a third hand report that it is almost a war zone in there. Amazing how so many people think they know how to do a teachers job and sort out discipline amongst pupils.
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What the...? From reading the article, it looks like there were multiple hate crimes perpetrated.

I hope they report this to the SPLC.

When s#it like this goes unchecked, it inevitably turns to violence.

From where I'm standing, the school and the local law enforcement have totally failed the kid, his parents, and the community.

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Not great - but with respect to the head teacher I would also caution against rushing to a fixed opinion based on a newspaper article and other 'opinion'. Teachers are routinely the subject of tribunals for inappropriate behaviour, harassment, assault and so on. It is a tsunami of claim, often in pursuit of cash. As a school governor, I see it routinely, and currently our rector is the subject of a malicious claim for inappropriate behaviour which, when seen in the full light of circumstance and evidence, will be exposed for what it is - a grab for cash. All I am saying is - do not prejudge and keep an open mind. Innocent until proven guilty. He may well have a tougher backbone than you think. Either way, who would be a teacher eh?
I understand your perspective but I personally know this family and I went to public schools in the same school district as this one. At this point, I will concede the point that the Principal is not 100% to blame. This particular school district has been seriously mismanaged for years and this is only the most recent issue that this district has faced. There have been numerous other issues in the past with the people in charge of the district and I think that this mismanagement is "trickling down" to the schools.

Part of the problem is that this area is a very rural and poor area in California, where not many decent jobs are available. As a result, tax revenues are not that great and the teachers are paid next to nothing. It's hard to find decent teachers when they pay so little. Most people would rather work somewhere in the central valley or the city of Sacramento, where they tend to pay more...

Now, all that aside, this Principal still needs to be fired. When students are doing the "Sieg, Heil" in the quad, you have failed as an educator and your tenure must end. If I were Principal, they would have been expelled that day!!! I'm sure their parents would have complained but I really wouldn't have cared. I would have just told the parents: "If you want to make a big deal out of this, that's fine! Let's get the police in here so we can haul off your kids for hate crimes."
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