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01-26-2009, 07:02 PM
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Assembly in Brazil
United Auto Workers (UAW) not welcome here. Now I understand it,when they say the economy is going south.
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01-26-2009, 09:59 PM
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Those G7/ G8 anti globalisation rioters were right huh?
Globalisation? Helped cause the current world wide recession? Only benefits the rich few whilst exploiting the poor masses? Discuss.
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01-26-2009, 11:10 PM
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Globalization hastens the inevitable day when labor markets are of comparable cost across the bulk of the globe. It may be painful in the short term (it might not even be best; I don't claim to know), but in the long term it will yield a much more stable world.
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01-26-2009, 11:22 PM
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Brazil have been making auto and aircraft parts for 50 years, nothing new there. South America is also a large market for both.
The world's a global village, the way outsourcing is going we'll have to be careful we don't end up as the village idiots.
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01-27-2009, 09:30 PM
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I'm sure they'd love to build a plant like that in Detroit but if they did the workers replaced by robots or process efficiency would still be sitting around the job bank at $75/hr... so what's the point?
I'm kinda wondering why the Big Three didn't wave the BK hammer around a bit more at the UAW. Declare BK, make new deals and start over.
Ah well... pretty soon it's just gonna be the Union bosses sitting around counting their money cause they have no more workers... But they held their ground!
And the Big Three execs will be counting OUR $$$...
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01-27-2009, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by HiDesert
but in the long term it will yield a much more stable world.
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What makes you think that? Seems the world's ills are largely born from cultural difference - deep-seated, long standing cultural issues. Earning a buck, I think, is peripheral.
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01-28-2009, 09:59 AM
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A lot of good things come from Brazil. I say hooray!
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01-29-2009, 12:56 AM
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What makes you think that? Seems the world's ills are largely born from cultural difference - deep-seated, long standing cultural issues. Earning a buck, I think, is peripheral.
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Really? A lot of people have said that all wars boil down to economics on some level or other. I'm certainly not saying that greater economic parity would usher in world peace (we seem to enjoy hating each other way too much for that to happen), but it wouldn't hurt.
...oh, and wow!
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01-30-2009, 12:50 PM
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What I find interesting is how little Ford actually makes that goes into the cars. company X makes the seats, Y makes the chassis, Z makes the dashboard.
Looks like they mostly stick the body on the chassis and put the big blue oval on the front.
There are some things you just don't want to outsource, at least IMO.
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01-31-2009, 02:14 PM
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All the old time big guys are now at best assembly plants for parts made by the cheap labour "Bit Producers", when Hinkley first opened I delivered seats from italy, god knows where they where actually made, most of the big proucers are just that bit bolters, in the UK they have even shut own most of the assembly plants, woner how long it will be before we are so resession hit that our poor economy will turn us back into producers shipping parts to pakistan india and china for assembly by the big boys!!! Global economy my arse, more like screw the workers it makes me sick.
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