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What's wrong with it? it's only the stereotypical rich hipsters with a bull$hit job and a "loft" apartment (probably bought by their dad), wearing their beards, brown Chukka boots, Farouche jeans and lumbersexual shirts, doing their 5 minute ride to a warehouse, for no apparent reason, and meeting up with a gaggle of vapid, blonde admiring airheads that become sexually aroused by the sight of these butch alpha males...:)
 
#5 ·
... looking at the bike in there ...

I like it even though the front and rear look like they've been created by different designers. I'm amused to see reference to 'High Torque' variant of the motor, is that the same High Torque that comes on T120 anyway, or a High Torque variant of the High Torque motor?

yes I like it but Stwin has cast wheels and some luggage ability which matters more to me, oh and I think it has a High Torque motor too!
 
#11 ·
If you read the Bobber thread in the water-cooled section they all love it. And reading this Bobber thread in the air-cooled section, everyone hates it! Could we be witnessing the separation of the Bonneville rider species into two new separate species???

For what it's worth, I ride an air-cooled Bonnie and I think the Bobber is a bit of a horror story, but who knows, maybe I'll by a new T100 or Street Cup and then suddenly the scales will fall from my eyes and I'll be able to appreciate it's immaculate beauty??

Or maybe I should just lay off the caffeine.
 
#12 ·
think I'm the exception then! I found the advert amusing, the posing didn't bother me.

I like the bike ... I may like it a lot more once we get the actual specs!! I said before, it has spoked wheels (so assume TT tires) and I think will be a pain to carry luggage. So that rules it out for me.

BTW I have a Bonneville Newchurch (mag wheels and Krauser pannier bags!)
 
#13 ·
I think will be a pain to carry luggage. So that rules it out for me.
I doubt the sort of client they're expecting will be bothered by the inability to carry luggage. All they'll need is their Platinum credit card to go to Starfooks for their twattachino (qv).


TWATTACHINO:

Anyone of the multitude of ridiculously overpriced, pretentiously-named variations on a cup of ****ing coffee, as ostentatiously enjoyed by arseholes around the World.

"Could we have a latte grande macchiato, a mochacchino fredo, a double doppio Americano and a ristretto lungo forte please?"

"Right. I'll just check that order back: So, that's four twattachinos, That'll be 28 pounds, please".
 
#18 ·
Really appreciate the Bobber comments here, as a old school ex HD 1% hardtail rider, I gotta say that this exercise by Triumph sucks. Same as a HD Factory Bobber sucks. Same as Yamaha well you get the drift here
I like my T120 just fine for what it is, apart from the firing order that is. Still going to make it mine tho,
Been chopping cars and bikes since we only had kick-starters and the reason we chop bikes is to make them look lean and mean and go faster.. The coffee shop - hoppers , used to be bar-hoppers, are great customers as they buy the look then ride until the weather changes and dance on to the next "look" leaving me a cheap bike to recycle.
Enough whining, Triumph has made mistakes in the past and this is just another styling exercise by some douche who has never ridden more than 1 hour.
Right now I want a better tune and a cat removal kit before I weld up one.
Oh yeah, my daily cage driver is a 50 Ford custom; flat black, flat head and 5 speeds.
And have adopted twattachino into my vocabulary, too funny, thanks.
 
#22 ·
This bike is produced for the people who do not have any vision of making their bike their own, they Buy these (as HD calls them "Factory Customs" which is an oxymoron in itself) and ride it around as if its their creation, they have no trouble if an identical one comes up and parks next to it. It starts with the Bolt On crowd who for years just "Buy and Bolt" and stand there as if they created a masterpiece. Triumph might be realizing that their New Water Cooled products need to attract a new consumer and this will move it along.
Shame really, one reason I really like the Sportster line up is how many people take them and make them their own, very easily in many cases because there are just so many routes you can take with them and the aftermarket parts is vast etc... The Triumph line up does not have such a following or Base most likely because the parts are not there just Over Priced BC bolt ons etc... and doo dads that say Triumph on them.
 
#20 ·
Does there have to be one? it's just a bit of fun, an observation of the workings of the marketing and publicity machine creating their own "reality" based on whatever Madison Avenue NY decides.

For the record though, I think that the world of Advertising, Fashion, Cosmetics and Public relations are the head lice of civilisation...:)
 
#21 · (Edited)
I like the style of the bobber a lot, for me the best looking bike of this type.

But I Agree, I can't sets those commercials anymore. I started my interest in bikes one year ago and had no clue what's on the market and searched around what kind of bike looks good for me. The first one I felt in love was the ducati scrambler, the next was the R nine t and than the triumph street twin... Than I recognised that every bike has the same style of hipster commercial. The commercials are very annoying, and I don't want to be a hipster, but I still love the style of the bikes and will buy one of these ;) And I Think a lot of people like Steve McQueen, Dennis Hopper James Dean... the hipsters some ages ago.
 
#23 ·
I see no issue with the current hipster craze beyond the marketing crap. If you take the hair and flanel away whats the problem? Yes those privledged urban hipsters may be posers but if you look beyond that there is some real sbstance behind it all. I for one was a hipster before they became cool. It started when I realized I didnt have the money to buy a new motorcycle or even a new washing machine or pay someone to fix the old broken one. I found a place that sold parts and I learned how to fix it myself. I think at its heart this new fad is about getting away from the throw away society created over the last 3 decades. Simplifying life and showing some restraint concerning material posessions. Yes I see the irony of that manifestation in something many see as a luxury item like a motorcycle however for many they represent a simpler and more economic mode of travel although with tje existence of cars like a Prius it may be an illusion. I personally am enjoying this new push for self reliance and I enjoy youtube for instruction towards that goal as much as my kids like it for pokemon videos ;). So dont feel guilty for liking the new retro style... embrace the sprit of the hipster i say.... just not the image. Off soap box..
Psy

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#24 ·
You're right of course, but there's a latent market for factory customs in Europe. Because of very restrictive homologation laws it's difficult to create anything by yourself. As soon as the regular Government vehicle inspections are due, the bike will be rejected if the inspector spots any part that's not approved by some Obergruppenführer in Dusseldorf...:)

For example a simple PUIG flyscreen has to be accompanied to the tests with the appropiate homologation paperwork, an entire booklet, 12 pages, which must be carried at all times without question...!

If you don't present the papers at ITV inspection time you'll be punished:

"For you, herr Forchetto, ze mods are over..."
 
#29 ·
I just bought a new '15 STR and always wanted a modern classic but was dissuaded by the weight/performance. I think if/when I get a bonney, I will buy an older one can mod it to whatever look I like (either bad ass urban scrambler, or maybe even a bobber). The problem with these bikes that are put out with a certain look you end up wanting to mod things anyway, so why not just buy an older one for 1/2 price and make it truly custom for 2/3 the price (and probably a weight reduction by using higher quality after market accessories).
 
#30 ·
If that works for you great. But there is a lot of people out there who want a bike that looks a certain way that do not possess the skill, tools or space to make it "custom". They want a new bike with no wear, no PO farkels, and factory warranty. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that!! I didn't have money for $700 Triumph saddlebags or SW Motech crashbbars but it did have a Garage, a $199 90 amp flux core welder and some scrap metal so I made my own. Am I bragging... a little.. do I look down on the hipster who wanted the look and could afford bolt on parts instead of making them..... No. The more people in general we attract to biking the more awarness and choice we will all have.... yes there will be some dingalings getting into our "club" this way but Inhate to tell you there are were always some here lol.

Jeff

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#32 · (Edited)
Well I quite like it, & have already put a deposit on one.
It will of course be modified to what I want, like most of my favorite bikes are
eg 400hp R3, 100hp custom Bonnie, decatted Thruxton R with western bars, work in progress that one.
I have a couple of low mile BMW's but have done very little to them, not the same passion for them.
At 64 I am a long way from a hipster & I have never purchased a fancy twattychino in my life.
Triumph say go your own way, & I always have, we are all different & I like being just that.
I think the new range will do well, regardless of the naysayers. :blowkiss
 
#37 ·
Why don't you guys like this bike?
It's just that it is a factory version of a style that used to be a customization. Guys bob bikes in their garages, that is the mystique. Buying one already bobbed is just wrong. It's like buying a rat bike. One should apply their own Icky Thump sticker to one's motorcycle, not purchase a motorcycle with the sticker pre-applied.

Like someone else said around here somewhere recently ... "factory customization" seems like spending money to compensate for not having their own creativity or skill. It doesn't feel earned, it feels bought.

I feel the same way about pre-distressed jeans with holes and fray applied at the factory. One should wear out their own jeans.

In my opinion. I'm probably wrong. :)
 
#34 ·
I don't want one, but I do like the look.

Yes, it would be more satisfying to build something like this, but in my case I'm 58 years old, working 40+ hours per week, have no garage to work inside, and I have a home to maintain. I'll likely be working till I'm 80 or more, so I've got to conserve myself. Can't devote the energy or the time to building motorcycles. It's hard enough to find the time just to ride one a few times a week during the short season here in New Hampshire.

I like my T100 so I don't lust for one of these, but I will issue no criticism of folks who do.

-Ed
 
#38 ·
I think you're all missing the point still. The hot blonde metaphorically dropping her nickers.
Come on! How did that slip past you all.

I have a thruxton R, that doesn't make me a cafe racer. I have nothing against it (the cafe racer scene), people have something to aspire to. And good. I bought mine for its brakes, power, ride position, to tour and track days. Mine might end up looking more like an ST than anything else. But I bought mine for its features, not what it looked like. I didn't even like the colours offered so im repainting it. Why would I stop at a busy coffee shop to wait to drink caffeine when I can stop at a pub and get an ice cold beer on tap instantly. Hear a funny story from a local and maybe some local road reports. Dose that make me a pub racer?

Not sure about the whole hipster movement, but I didn't see any beards in that add. I have a beard and flannelette shirts, so does that me a hipster or a bogan?

Has anyone ridden one of these bikes? What's the torque curve like?, how does the rear end handle? What's the fuel range like? Is the seat any good? A bit hard to pigeon hole a bike on an add.

I have a rigid framed t100 790cc, single seat with low flat bars. I have a shed and a mig and all tools and the skills to finish off a great bike. But rego/compliance is another thing. If I had less, this bike is available off the show room floor from triumph.

Look at Harley's, every walk of life ride them, from v rods to sportys.

I've got no doubt these bikes have their attributes. If ya like it buy it. Once you have bought it and lived with it, then by all means, share the dirt.

Metaphorically or not hot chicks dropping their nickers gets my vote.
 
#39 ·
I have no issue with the blobber. It doesn't claim to be fast or even prompt you to try and ride it fast. It appropriately has a 270 degree twin engine that slugs along merrily and, rightly so, is generally a dog in the HP department. IMHO, it is the only appropriate application of the 270 degree LC motors in the current offerings...the rest of the range honestly should be 360 degree mills that perform at a higher level of tune.

And, yeah, my use of the term blobber was intentional.

Regards,

--Rich
 
#41 ·
Well I guess I just answered my own question that I just posted elsewhere. The Genuine Triumph Accessory Exhaust A9608104 are probably prohibited in various places. They look just like the T100 peashooters and are a bit louder? I think.
 
#45 ·
I think it was a pretty neat commercial - that's all I look at it as. Not a bike I would be interested in but fun commercial to watch.

Thanks to the orig. poster for sharing it.
 
#47 ·
Well, I sort of fell into this thread by accident. What a miserable bunch of scrotes you come across as. This makes Grumpy Old Men uplifting. Bike's not my normal taste but I think it's really funky, I will certainly take a look at one. I expect if I look hard enough through this thread while I finish my Twattaccino I'll find someone bemoaning the demise of the hand oil pump. There are issues bubbling here. Feckin Luddites!! :laugh2:
 
#48 ·
I'll find someone bemoaning the demise of the hand oil pump. There are issues bubbling here. Feckin Luddites!! :laugh2:
That's rich, coming from someone in a Country that has 108 steam railway lines still operating and manned by 18,000 volunteers:)

(I did enjoy a lovely ride pulled by locomotive No.30777 "Sir Lamiel" at the Great Central Railway line, Loughborough, Leicestershire, just a few weeks ago during my last visit to the UK...:embarrassed, no gay hand oil pumps on that engine though!)
 
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